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	<title>Comments on: PART 1: The slowing growth of Wikipedia: some data, models, and explanations</title>
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		<title>By: The slowing growth of Wikipedia (part two): resistance from dominant editors - PARC blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The slowing growth of Wikipedia (part two): resistance from dominant editors - PARC blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one of this post, which shared findings on the slowing growth of Wikipedia, recently received coverage in the New Scientist (as well as Fast Company, Business Insider/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one of this post, which shared findings on the slowing growth of Wikipedia, recently received coverage in the New Scientist (as well as Fast Company, Business Insider/ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A modified proposed model of Wikipedia growth (part four) - PARC blog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.parc.com/blog/2009/07/part-1-the-slowing-growth-of-wikipedia-some-data-models-and-explanations/comment-page-1/#comment-1038</link>
		<dc:creator>A modified proposed model of Wikipedia growth (part four) - PARC blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mentioned in our first post on the slowing growth rate of Wikipedia [see also our second and third posts on the topic] it appears that Wikipedia article growth peaked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mentioned in our first post on the slowing growth rate of Wikipedia [see also our second and third posts on the topic] it appears that Wikipedia article growth peaked [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Population shifts in Wikipedia (part three) - PARC blog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.parc.com/blog/2009/07/part-1-the-slowing-growth-of-wikipedia-some-data-models-and-explanations/comment-page-1/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>Population shifts in Wikipedia (part three) - PARC blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wikipedia research (previously covered in part one and part two) continues to get media attention, most recently including coverage in Time magazine [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ed H. Chi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed H. Chi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the links, Yan. The 2nd link in particular was very useful and interesting, though it doesn&#039;t point to hard evidence of why the behavior is changing. Stay tuned...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the links, Yan. The 2nd link in particular was very useful and interesting, though it doesn&#8217;t point to hard evidence of why the behavior is changing. Stay tuned&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yan Shikhvarger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yan Shikhvarger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are great points and I am looking forward to the further posts.  The notion you mention of experienced vs. newbies is very interesting as well and makes sense.

As far as blogger churn, I have not seen in depth data on this but just a few things from technorati

http://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/silence-of-the-blogs/

and 

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/blogspotting/archives/2007/04/blogging_growth.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great points and I am looking forward to the further posts.  The notion you mention of experienced vs. newbies is very interesting as well and makes sense.</p>
<p>As far as blogger churn, I have not seen in depth data on this but just a few things from technorati</p>
<p><a href="http://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/silence-of-the-blogs/" rel="nofollow">http://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/silence-of-the-blogs/</a></p>
<p>and </p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/blogspotting/archives/2007/04/blogging_growth.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/blogspotting/archives/2007/04/blogging_growth.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed H. Chi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed H. Chi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting, Yan. 

(1) Beyond search visibility, it may simply be a fundamental attention limit. Wikipedia received increasing site rank (according to Alexa.com) up until about summer of 2006 to about the 8th most-trafficked website in the world. It then became very difficult to get any more traffic. This fundamental attention limit may have had an effect on overall growth. There is simply a fixed amount of user attention to Wikipedia-oriented topics (ie., things that are more or less encyclopedic).

(2) Our later blog posts will examine these barriers (usability, community guidelines, rule limits), and how they affect the Wikipedia editor population. In a nutshell, newbies experience disproportionate resistance compared to more experienced editors, and this resistance has been increasing over time.

On churn, we have some results showing how the patterns have been changing over time. It would be very interesting to compare it against blogging data. (Do you have pointers to blogging measurements that show saturation in the blogging space?)

It&#039;s unclear whether Wikipedia is entering stagnation or if it needs to switch to a maintenance mode. We will continue to monitor and contribute scientific understanding where we can...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting, Yan. </p>
<p>(1) Beyond search visibility, it may simply be a fundamental attention limit. Wikipedia received increasing site rank (according to Alexa.com) up until about summer of 2006 to about the 8th most-trafficked website in the world. It then became very difficult to get any more traffic. This fundamental attention limit may have had an effect on overall growth. There is simply a fixed amount of user attention to Wikipedia-oriented topics (ie., things that are more or less encyclopedic).</p>
<p>(2) Our later blog posts will examine these barriers (usability, community guidelines, rule limits), and how they affect the Wikipedia editor population. In a nutshell, newbies experience disproportionate resistance compared to more experienced editors, and this resistance has been increasing over time.</p>
<p>On churn, we have some results showing how the patterns have been changing over time. It would be very interesting to compare it against blogging data. (Do you have pointers to blogging measurements that show saturation in the blogging space?)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unclear whether Wikipedia is entering stagnation or if it needs to switch to a maintenance mode. We will continue to monitor and contribute scientific understanding where we can&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yan Shikhvarger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yan Shikhvarger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are very interesting points.  I&#039;d like to add some additional food for thought... There seem to be 2 issues as you point out: plateau in traffic and plateau in contributors.  

1) Traffic: It&#039;s important to note that Wikipedia&#039;s traffic is often tied to search visibility for topics.  Google is responsible for over 45% of referring traffic to Wikipedia, with Yahoo! coming in next at 9%, so search visibility is a huge traffic driver (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://siteanalytics.compete.com/wikipedia.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;referral analytics&lt;/a&gt;). Yet, growth in search has not been exponential as well so that is perhaps correlating to what we are seeing here. This &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/28/google-gobbled-up-90-percent-of-all-us-search-growth-in-2008/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TechCrunch post&lt;/a&gt; charts search activity and while Google is growing -- not exponentially of course because it is a pretty mature product -- other search engines remain flat. (It is also interesting that Knol has not managed to take any real traffic away from Wikipedia.) 

2) Contributors: Wikipedia&#039;s contributor model is based on committed and experienced volunteers. There is a limit to this number of users because there does seem to be a learning curve with syntax and guidelines that are a barriers to continuous growth beyond the core group of contributors. I would also be curious to see if an organization like Mozilla is facing a similar issue in its contributor growth model. There could also be a certain &quot;churn&quot; factor for contributors as they can simply get burned out in doing the work; this is something that can be observed in bloggers as many do quit because of the commitment needed.

Wikipedia does seem to be entering a stagnation phase and that is never a good sign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are very interesting points.  I&#8217;d like to add some additional food for thought&#8230; There seem to be 2 issues as you point out: plateau in traffic and plateau in contributors.  </p>
<p>1) Traffic: It&#8217;s important to note that Wikipedia&#8217;s traffic is often tied to search visibility for topics.  Google is responsible for over 45% of referring traffic to Wikipedia, with Yahoo! coming in next at 9%, so search visibility is a huge traffic driver (see <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/wikipedia.org/" rel="nofollow">referral analytics</a>). Yet, growth in search has not been exponential as well so that is perhaps correlating to what we are seeing here. This <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/28/google-gobbled-up-90-percent-of-all-us-search-growth-in-2008/" rel="nofollow">TechCrunch post</a> charts search activity and while Google is growing &#8212; not exponentially of course because it is a pretty mature product &#8212; other search engines remain flat. (It is also interesting that Knol has not managed to take any real traffic away from Wikipedia.) </p>
<p>2) Contributors: Wikipedia&#8217;s contributor model is based on committed and experienced volunteers. There is a limit to this number of users because there does seem to be a learning curve with syntax and guidelines that are a barriers to continuous growth beyond the core group of contributors. I would also be curious to see if an organization like Mozilla is facing a similar issue in its contributor growth model. There could also be a certain &#8220;churn&#8221; factor for contributors as they can simply get burned out in doing the work; this is something that can be observed in bloggers as many do quit because of the commitment needed.</p>
<p>Wikipedia does seem to be entering a stagnation phase and that is never a good sign.</p>
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